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Article improvement - minimum - WP:V and WP:NOR - suggested next step

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New Articles - Residency is neither necessary nor sufficient to be Australian

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It is great to see how busy Matilda had been .. Apologies for not being able to make an equally productive contribution to date!

I see three new 'stub' articles created. Great! I note, with concern, however that Booian Australians are being defined as those residents of Australia who have Booian ancestors (alla of Booian descent

Please, please might we simply agree (as demographically and/ior statistically inconvenient as it may be) .. that people DO NOT become Australian simply by living here (ie by being residents of Australia)!!.

To be classed as an Australian, one MUST be a citizen of Australia, not just a resident .. irrespective of one's ancestory. Residency is neither a necessary nor a sufficient condition to being Australian ..

As previously discussed, back in 1991, approx 40% of residents born in Booian, were just plain Booians and could not be properly classed and ought NOT be mistakenly/inaccurately classed Booian Australians.

If it's agreeable to you, without changing any of the ABS statistics quoted in the stubs .. I'd like to amend the defintions to read something like this:

Booian(Nation) Australians are citizens of Australia who were born in Booian or otherwise qualify to be citizens of Booian

I suggest this kind of definition particularly for all articles dealing with 'nations', such as South Africa, and even China which are themselves, made up of a multitude of ethnic groups and identies!!

This kind of definition is not only more accurate .. but it also deals with the vagaries of multiple generations of ancestory (ie with ancestry doubling from 2, to 4, to 8, to 16, to 32 possible ancestoral claims .. and how far do we go back??).

I hope you agree and find the above suggested amendment agreeable?? Bruceanthro (talk) 06:48, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hi - it isn't that I don't hear you (or read you) my problem is being pedantic about reflecting the stats which we have to hand and we are using. I am also constrained a bit by the effect of common usage which is a bit broader but I note that born in Booian or otherwise qualify to be citizens of Booian is broader and a long way there.
Because the stats count residents and I want to use them I match the definition to what is being counted. Pause to gather thoughts There must be some way around this. I am happy to use the old stats on citizens from 1996 (which we discussed at [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Demographics of Australia/Archive 1#Citzenship vs Ethnicity|Citzenship vs Ethnicity ) but I want to use the more up to date 2006 census which doesn't seem to have tables matching the infor at [1] This is a more recent documetn[2] but note it refers to permanent residents rather than citizens.
I am not sure if you remember the case of Robert Jovicic, born in France to Serbian parents, lived in Australia since the age of 2 but did not gain citizenship and was deported to Serbia in 2004 and now (Feb 2008) granted permanent residency [3] [4] - he wouldn't fit the definition you gave but I think we would ordinarily count him as a Serbian Australian.
So - I would be delighted with any form of words you can come up with that allow the use of the census stats and allow for the ordinary understanding in relation to the case of Robert Jovicic (he wasn't the only one - I am sure there was someone deported back to Italy too) but not sure that we are quite there yet and I can't think of a better alternative myself :-) Matilda talk 07:22, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article on Australian people? Scope?

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Currently we have no article on the Australian people - the blue link is a redirect to Australia. There are other people articles. However I note that say for Japanese people it has the dab header This article is about the ethnic group. For the group of people holding Japanese citizenship, see Demographics of Japan. Similarly English people has his article is about the English as an ethnic group and nation. For information on the population of England, see Demography of England. The article on Canadian people redirects to Demographics of Canada. I am not sure I find the organisation of the US demographics a useful model - see for example Template:Demographics of the United States - there is some good bits but some of it is not yet thought through I think. Should we. like the Canadians, redirect to the Demography of Australia article or is there an article on Australian people that has a different scope.? --Matilda talk 22:30, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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A very useful source which gives citizenship stats ...

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Hi - when editing the Malaysian Australian article, I was checking the refs and proposing to check cites ... when one of them : 2914.0.55.002 2006 Census Ethnic Media Package: an excel download is very very useful. For each major group it gives citizenship, arrival years, ancestry responses, state of residence, ... I propose to cite as

  • "2914.0.55.002 2006 Census Ethnic Media Package" (Excel download). Census Dictionary, 2006 (cat.no 2901.0). Australian Bureau of Statistics. 2007-06-27. Retrieved 2008-07-14. - ie <ref name = "Census Ethic Media Package">{{cite web|url = http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/subscriber.nsf/0/5618AB4511347DC2CA257306000D44C2/$File/2914055002_2006%20(Reissue).xls |format = Excel download| title = 2914.0.55.002 2006 Census Ethnic Media Package| date = 2007-06-27|accessdate = 2008-07-14|publisher = [[Australian Bureau of Statistics]]|work = Census Dictionary, 2006 (cat.no 2901.0)}}</ref>

Any suggestions as to better citation gratefully received. Regards Matilda talk 22:22, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Collaboration effort? Post war migrant arrivals, Australia - even ideas around structure appreciated

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Hi - I have nominated Post war migrant arrivals, Australia (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) for WP:ACOTF but am seeking collaborators at any time - the article was effectively non-existent and needs lots of work and also ideas around structure --Matilda talk 23:00, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

SEIFA

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Another useful product to know about, available for download from the ABS - I just wrote a quick article on it so I can link it from an article I'm writing about WA electorates. If someone knows how to improve this rather quick effort at an article on it, I'd be most grateful. Thanks :) Orderinchaos 05:54, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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More eyes needed

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Please help to improve the article. Uncle G (talk) 22:05, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Notability of small Fooian - Australian groups - Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Argentine Australian

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Please see the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Argentine Australian - shoudl we have articles on groups of samll Fooian-Australians or not? --Matilda talk 22:21, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Dueling move requests at Latin Australian

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There are two suggested moves for this article, "Latino Australian" and "Latin American Australian", and the two nominators and I (randomly) are the only voices being heard. The evidence that's been presented is extremely thin, so more voices familiar with the topic would be helpful. Ed Fitzgerald t / c 18:51, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Unreferenced living people articles bot

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List of ethnic minority members of the Parliament of Australia

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Hello! I'm having a go at creating an article for non-Anglo-Celtic Australian parliamentarians, noting the media coverage of Albanese being the first PM from a non-Anglo-Celtic background, and using List of ethnic minority politicians in the United Kingdom as a loose precedent.

Current attempt is at Draft:List of ethnic minority members of the Parliament of Australia. Curious to hear thoughts of anyone here on whether this seems notable enough for a list article, how much referencing is needed, and whether the classification of ethnicities seems accurate/appropriate. Any and all feedback is welcome!

@JarrahTree, Kransky, and Matilda: you seem to be among the more active members of this WikiProject, so I'm especially keen to hear your thoughts!

Neegzistuoja (talk) 04:01, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry no longer really active in Wikipedia (just seen your message nearly a year later!) Matilda talk 03:45, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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